[ASC-list] The conversation is out of control

Susan Kirk skirk at iprimus.com.au
Tue Dec 13 01:01:39 UTC 2011

Morning ASCERs

I set out on a mission this morning to post some science communication news
on the ASC website.  TC (The conversation) has worthwhile content on many
subjects so I thought I would follow up on a couple of articles about media
and science and perhaps post a link.  But what the hell?  The place is
completely out of control.  Its a warzone over there!  I give you this
-inaccuracies-and-a-hidden-agenda-2930 They (TC) better have another looksie
at their charter and quick.

But even amidst the chaos there are communication issues worthy of address.
If you follow the thread of the above linked article you will see some of
these issues raised in the comments.  Personally I don't think it was the
right venue to discuss the issues but regardless the issues are:  How to
stop the completely insane posting comments?  Ie censorship.  How to
differentiate between the completely insane and the 'trusted expert'? Ie
opinion vs facts.  These are not uncommon issues, prevalent mostly on open
forums like these.  So how does one keep the content civilised but also
retain democracy.  I can tell you one thing it won't happen by clicking on
the scoring tool against each author.  Anyone?

Yours completely out of the conversation, Susan

Susan Kirk  Bcomm

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> From: Ian Muchamore <ian at imthinking.com.au>
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> Subject: [ASC-list] ASC-Vic Christmas Dinner tomorrow
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> A few places still available....
> ASC Vic Members are very warmly invited to a meal and catch up with fellow
> science communicators on Tuesday 13th December at the friendly Town Hall
> Hotel in North Melbourne.
> A chance to hear what others have been up to this year, hear about future
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> From: Nancy Longnecker <nancy.longnecker at uwa.edu.au>
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> Subject: [ASC-list] what will new minister mean for sci com in
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> Any thoughts on what a new innovation minister will mean for science
> communication in Australia? It seems that we have lost an ally in Kim Carr:
> "However the future for research reforms being contemplated by Senator Carr,
> notably his proposal to include community impact in research funding audits
> are no longer assured."
> http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/gillard-innovates-in-educatio
> n-with-super-ministry-cabinet-shuffle/story-e6frgcjx-1226220035295
> If that is a set-back, are there compensations? What has been gained?
> Curiously, Nancy
> Assoc Prof Nancy Longnecker
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