[ASC-list] No no no - not keep speakers to time, but stop boring speakers in their tracks! Speaker control

Emma Donnelly e.donnelly at curtin.edu.au
Tue Feb 1 06:45:52 UTC 2011


Hi Toss,

I was hoping you were going to say that once all 10 lights were on a trap
door in the stage would open and the floor would give way ­ dropping the
boring or overtime speaker into a pit (or maybe even a tank full of sharks
with lasers on their heads).

Or if there were say 6 lights on ­ they could give up or choose to go on
with the show to their own detriment....

Oh well.... Maybe I can hope for such things at the next conference I
attend.

Emma


On 1/02/11 2:37 PM, "Toss Gascoigne" <director at tossgascoigne.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Helen, Phil, Jan, Will et al
> 
> Your suggestions cover many possibilities, but I'm after something different:
> an instrument to cut boring speakers off.
> 
> It would consist of 10 remote control devices and a master panel on the
> speaker's podium.  The master panel has a row of 10 small LEDs.
> 
> The idea is that 10 people in the audience are given a remote control unit;
> and when they decide they would like the speaker to stop, they press a button.
> 
> This causes one of the 10 lights on the control board to come on, and when
> (say) 6 lights are on, the speaker must sit down immediately.
> 
> So - who could be commissioned to make one of these?  What would be the best
> way of doing it?.
> 
> Think Red Symons and the gong on "Red Faces".
> 
> (On the different issue of keeping speakers to time, Helen Sims' idea works
> well.  That's the one where the chair first styands to indicate the speaker is
> in their last minute, and when time is up, begins to walk towards the
> speaker.)
> 
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> On 01/02/2011, at 5:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote:
> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Along Helen's lines, it often works well, when a convenor/MC gets up in the
>> last minute (which serves as a visual reminder) and then is able to wind it
>> up by saying, "OK, before we thank.....are there any questions?"
>>  
>>  Phil
>>  
>>  
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au on behalf of Helen Sim
>>  Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 12:58 PM
>>  To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>>  Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>  
>>  I suggest using a threatening MC for each session. At five minutes to,
>>  they give the wind-up signal. At one minute to, they stand up and
>>  advance towards the lectern to introduce the next speaker.
>>  
>>  If all else fails, cut the power to the speaker's mic and and projector.
>>  
>>  cheers,
>>  
>>  Helen
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  On 1/02/11 2:47 PM, Adam Barclay wrote:
>>>  > I've not tried this, but might it work if the organisers told speakers
>>>  > they have, say, 12 min each when in fact 15 have been allocated?
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>>>  >     Message: 1
>>>  >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:17:37 +0800
>>>  >     From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>>>  >     <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>>>  >     To: "Jan Thomas" <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au
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>>>  >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>>>  >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>>>  >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers to
>>>  >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>>>  >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>>>  >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>>>  >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end of
>>>  >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>>>  >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>>>  >
>>>  >     Regards
>>>  >
>>>  >     Phil
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     -----Original Message-----
>>>  >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan Thomas
>>>  >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>>>  >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>>  >
>>>  >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns used
>>>  >     to use in the school I was at.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>>>  >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>>>  >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>>>  >
>>>  >     Cheers
>>>  >
>>>  >     Jan
>>>  >
>>>  >     Jan Thomas
>>>  >
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>>>  >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:23:20 +1100
>>>  >     From: Abigail Thomas <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>>>  >     <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>
>>>  >     To: 'Phillip Arena' <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>>>  >     <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>, Jan Thomas
>>>  >     <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>>>  >     "asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>"
>>>  >     <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>>>  >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>>>  >     We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>>>  >     Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>>>  >     They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>>>  >     ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>>>  >     Just a thought.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Abbie
>>>  >     (ABC Science Events)
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip
>>> Arena
>>>  >     Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>>>  >     To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>>>  >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers to
>>>  >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>>>  >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>>>  >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>>>  >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end of
>>>  >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>>>  >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>>>  >
>>>  >     Regards
>>>  >
>>>  >     Phil
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     -----Original Message-----
>>>  >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan Thomas
>>>  >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>>>  >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>>  >
>>>  >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns used
>>>  >     to use in the school I was at.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>>>  >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>>>  >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>>>  >
>>>  >     Cheers
>>>  >
>>>  >     Jan
>>>  >
>>>  >     Jan Thomas
>>>  >
>>>  >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>>>  >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
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>>>  >     Message: 3
>>>  >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:38:39 +0800
>>>  >     From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>>>  >     <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>>>  >     To: "Abigail Thomas" <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>>>  >     <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>,       "Jan Thomas"
>>>  >     <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>>>  >     <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>>>  >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>>>  >     I agree, buzzing in the ear is distracting.
>>>  >
>>>  >     I'm presuming speakers know the length of their presentations
>>>  >     ahead of time (I'm having a flashback to my first presentation
>>>  >     back in 1989 at the First World Congress of Herpetology where I'd
>>>  >      had my presentation whittled to 11.5 mins!....oh, and they used
>>>  >     the 3 coloured light system that time).
>>>  >
>>>  >     Speakers then are also reminded (eg. in the introduction to each
>>>  >     session) that they will be notified (in some form) when they have
>>>  >     say, 1 minute left.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Reminders will serve to more 'prepare' each speaker to potentially
>>>  >     being cut off without turning to mush.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Phil
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     -----Original Message-----
>>>  >     From: Abigail Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>>>  >     <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>]
>>>  >     Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 10:23 AM
>>>  >     To: Phillip Arena; Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>>  >
>>>  >     We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>>>  >     Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>>>  >     They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>>>  >     ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>>>  >     Just a thought.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Abbie
>>>  >     (ABC Science Events)
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip
>>> Arena
>>>  >     Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>>>  >     To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>>>  >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers to
>>>  >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>>>  >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>>>  >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>>>  >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end of
>>>  >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>>>  >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>>>  >
>>>  >     Regards
>>>  >
>>>  >     Phil
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >     -----Original Message-----
>>>  >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>>>  >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan Thomas
>>>  >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>>>  >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>>>  >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>>  >
>>>  >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns used
>>>  >     to use in the school I was at.
>>>  >
>>>  >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>>>  >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>>>  >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>>>  >
>>>  >     Cheers
>>>  >
>>>  >     Jan
>>>  >
>>>  >     Jan Thomas
>>>  >
>>>  >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>>>  >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>>>  >     jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
>>>  >     61-3-8344 1774 (office)
>>>  >     041 900 6205 (mobile)
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