[ASC-list] No no no - not keep speakers to time, but stop boring speakers in their tracks! Speaker control

Helen Sim Helen.Sim at csiro.au
Tue Feb 1 07:05:16 UTC 2011


Toss,

You want to cut boring speakers off, without the speaker being able to 
identify who in the audience is bored with them.

Would it be such a bad thing for audiences to make their boredom known? 
As a previous poster said, kids indicate pretty clearly when they are 
bored: they don't feel obliged to be polite.

If everyone could tolerate it, audience members could wave a yellow card 
in the air when their boredom threshold was reached.

Isn't that a good, useful form of feedback?

On the other hand, does the fact that a presentation contains boring 
bits totally invalidate it?

cheers,

Helen


On 1/02/11 5:37 PM, Toss Gascoigne wrote:
> Hi Helen, Phil, Jan, Will et al
>
> Your suggestions cover many possibilities, but I'm after something 
> different: an instrument to cut boring speakers off.
>
> It would consist of 10 remote control devices and a master panel on 
> the speaker's podium.  The master panel has a row of 10 small LEDs.
>
> The idea is that 10 people in the audience are given a remote control 
> unit; and when they decide they would like the speaker to stop, they 
> press a button.
>
> This causes one of the 10 lights on the control board to come on, and 
> when (say) 6 lights are on, the speaker must sit down immediately.
>
> So - who could be commissioned to make one of these?  What would be 
> the best way of doing it?.
>
> Think Red Symons and the gong on "Red Faces".
>
> (On the different issue of keeping speakers to time, Helen Sims' idea 
> works well.  That's the one where the chair first styands to indicate 
> the speaker is in their last minute, and when time is up, begins to 
> walk towards the speaker.)
>
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> On 01/02/2011, at 5:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote:
>
>> Along Helen's lines, it often works well, when a convenor/MC gets up 
>> in the last minute (which serves as a visual reminder) and then is 
>> able to wind it up by saying, "OK, before we thank.....are there any 
>> questions?"
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Helen Sim
>> Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 12:58 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>
>> I suggest using a threatening MC for each session. At five minutes to,
>> they give the wind-up signal. At one minute to, they stand up and
>> advance towards the lectern to introduce the next speaker.
>>
>> If all else fails, cut the power to the speaker's mic and and projector.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Helen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/02/11 2:47 PM, Adam Barclay wrote:
>> > I've not tried this, but might it work if the organisers told speakers
>> > they have, say, 12 min each when in fact 15 have been allocated?
>> >
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>> >     Message: 1
>> >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:17:37 +0800
>> >     From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au 
>> <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>
>> > <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>> >     To: "Jan Thomas" <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au 
>> <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
>> > <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>, <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
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>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>> >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers to
>> >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>> >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end of
>> >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan Thomas
>> >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns used
>> >     to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> >     Cheers
>> >
>> >     Jan
>> >
>> >     Jan Thomas
>> >
>> >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>> >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> > jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au> 
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>> >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:23:20 +1100
>> >     From: Abigail Thomas <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au 
>> <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>
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>> >     To: 'Phillip Arena' <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au 
>> <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>
>> > <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>, Jan Thomas
>> > <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au> 
>> <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>> >     "asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au> 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>"
>> > <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au> 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >     Message-ID:
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>> <DD2A71399ECDF341836C0B265F9033E501225642D338 at NUCEMB02.aus.aunty.abc.net.au 
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>> >     We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>> >     Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>> >     They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>> >     ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>> >     Just a thought.
>> >
>> >     Abbie
>> >     (ABC Science Events)
>> >
>> >
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip Arena
>> >     Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>> >     To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >
>> >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers to
>> >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>> >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end of
>> >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan Thomas
>> >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns used
>> >     to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> >     Cheers
>> >
>> >     Jan
>> >
>> >     Jan Thomas
>> >
>> >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>> >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> > jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au> 
>> <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
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>> >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:38:39 +0800
>> >     From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au 
>> <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>
>> > <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>> >     To: "Abigail Thomas" <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au 
>> <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>
>> > <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>,       "Jan Thomas"
>> > <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au> 
>> <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>> > <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au> 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >     Message-ID:
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>> <mailto:95CE8520694325479ABB7AE16B36F1B805F1DA8A at PLUTO.ad.murdoch.edu.au>
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>> >     I agree, buzzing in the ear is distracting.
>> >
>> >     I'm presuming speakers know the length of their presentations
>> >     ahead of time (I'm having a flashback to my first presentation
>> >     back in 1989 at the First World Congress of Herpetology where I'd
>> >      had my presentation whittled to 11.5 mins!....oh, and they used
>> >     the 3 coloured light system that time).
>> >
>> >     Speakers then are also reminded (eg. in the introduction to each
>> >     session) that they will be notified (in some form) when they have
>> >     say, 1 minute left.
>> >
>> >     Reminders will serve to more 'prepare' each speaker to potentially
>> >     being cut off without turning to mush.
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: Abigail Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> > <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>]
>> >     Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 10:23 AM
>> >     To: Phillip Arena; Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>> >     Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>> >     They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>> >     ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>> >     Just a thought.
>> >
>> >     Abbie
>> >     (ABC Science Events)
>> >
>> >
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip Arena
>> >     Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>> >     To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >
>> >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers to
>> >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>> >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end of
>> >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan Thomas
>> >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au 
>> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au> <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns used
>> >     to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> >     Cheers
>> >
>> >     Jan
>> >
>> >     Jan Thomas
>> >
>> >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>> >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> > jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au> 
>> <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
>> >     61-3-8344 1774 (office)
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