[ASC-list] No no no - not keep speakers to time, but stop boring speakers in their tracks! Speaker control

Charles Willock charlesw at cse.unsw.EDU.AU
Tue Feb 1 07:35:28 UTC 2011


Hi Toss,

   A speaker "feedback" system is quite feasible and relatively easy
   to implement.

   However, given your second message and allusion to Red Symons, I must admit 
   to wondering what you are aiming at - are you intending to use it more in 
   a competitive or "game" mode rather than as a training tool ... perhaps after
   an after conference dinner?

   Your clarification would be appreciated.


Many Thanks,
Charlesw



On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 05:37:09PM +1100, Toss Gascoigne wrote:
> Hi Helen, Phil, Jan, Will et al
>
> Your suggestions cover many possibilities, but I'm after something  
> different: an instrument to cut boring speakers off.
>
> It would consist of 10 remote control devices and a master panel on the 
> speaker's podium.  The master panel has a row of 10 small LEDs.
>
> The idea is that 10 people in the audience are given a remote control  
> unit; and when they decide they would like the speaker to stop, they  
> press a button.
>
> This causes one of the 10 lights on the control board to come on, and  
> when (say) 6 lights are on, the speaker must sit down immediately.
>
> So - who could be commissioned to make one of these?  What would be the 
> best way of doing it?.
>
> Think Red Symons and the gong on "Red Faces".
>
> (On the different issue of keeping speakers to time, Helen Sims' idea  
> works well.  That's the one where the chair first styands to indicate  
> the speaker is in their last minute, and when time is up, begins to walk 
> towards the speaker.)
>
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> On 01/02/2011, at 5:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote:
>
>> Along Helen's lines, it often works well, when a convenor/MC gets up  
>> in the last minute (which serves as a visual reminder) and then is  
>> able to wind it up by saying, "OK, before we thank.....are there any  
>> questions?"
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au on behalf of Helen Sim
>> Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 12:58 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>
>> I suggest using a threatening MC for each session. At five minutes to,
>> they give the wind-up signal. At one minute to, they stand up and
>> advance towards the lectern to introduce the next speaker.
>>
>> If all else fails, cut the power to the speaker's mic and and  
>> projector.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Helen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/02/11 2:47 PM, Adam Barclay wrote:
>> > I've not tried this, but might it work if the organisers told  
>> speakers
>> > they have, say, 12 min each when in fact 15 have been allocated?
>> >
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>> >     Message: 1
>> >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:17:37 +0800
>> >     From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>> >     <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>> >     To: "Jan Thomas" <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au
>> >     <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>, <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>> >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers  
>> to
>> >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>> >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end 
>> of
>> >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan  
>> Thomas
>> >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns  
>> used
>> >     to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> >     Cheers
>> >
>> >     Jan
>> >
>> >     Jan Thomas
>> >
>> >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>> >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
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>> >     Message: 2
>> >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:23:20 +1100
>> >     From: Abigail Thomas <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> >     <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>
>> >     To: 'Phillip Arena' <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>> >     <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>, Jan Thomas
>> >     <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>> >     "asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>"
>> >     <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >     Message-ID:
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>> >     We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>> >     Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>> >     They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>> >     ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>> >     Just a thought.
>> >
>> >     Abbie
>> >     (ABC Science Events)
>> >
>> >
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip 
>> Arena
>> >     Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>> >     To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >
>> >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers  
>> to
>> >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>> >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end 
>> of
>> >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan  
>> Thomas
>> >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns  
>> used
>> >     to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> >     Cheers
>> >
>> >     Jan
>> >
>> >     Jan Thomas
>> >
>> >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>> >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> >     jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
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>> >     Message: 3
>> >     Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:38:39 +0800
>> >     From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>> >     <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>> >     To: "Abigail Thomas" <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> >     <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>,       "Jan Thomas"
>> >     <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>> >     <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>> >
>> >     I agree, buzzing in the ear is distracting.
>> >
>> >     I'm presuming speakers know the length of their presentations
>> >     ahead of time (I'm having a flashback to my first presentation
>> >     back in 1989 at the First World Congress of Herpetology where  
>> I'd
>> >      had my presentation whittled to 11.5 mins!....oh, and they used
>> >     the 3 coloured light system that time).
>> >
>> >     Speakers then are also reminded (eg. in the introduction to each
>> >     session) that they will be notified (in some form) when they  
>> have
>> >     say, 1 minute left.
>> >
>> >     Reminders will serve to more 'prepare' each speaker to  
>> potentially
>> >     being cut off without turning to mush.
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: Abigail Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> >     <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>]
>> >     Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 10:23 AM
>> >     To: Phillip Arena; Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>> >     Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>> >     They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>> >     ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>> >     Just a thought.
>> >
>> >     Abbie
>> >     (ABC Science Events)
>> >
>> >
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip 
>> Arena
>> >     Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>> >     To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >
>> >     One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> >     'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers  
>> to
>> >     indicate the time left. At a  well-organised conference, the
>> >     speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> >     simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> >     Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end 
>> of
>> >     each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> >     fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1  min).
>> >
>> >     Regards
>> >
>> >     Phil
>> >
>> >
>> >     -----Original Message-----
>> >     From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> >     <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan  
>> Thomas
>> >     Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> >     To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> >     Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >     I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns  
>> used
>> >     to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> >     Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> >     polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> >     this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> >     Cheers
>> >
>> >     Jan
>> >
>> >     Jan Thomas
>> >
>> >     Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute &
>> >     Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> >     jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
>> >     61-3-8344 1774 (office)
>> >     041 900 6205 (mobile)
>> >     61-3-9349-4106 (Fax)
>> >
>> >     Australian Mathematical  Sciences Institute
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>> >
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