[ASC-list] No no no - not keep speakers to time, but stop boring speakers in their tracks! Speaker control
Charles Willock
charlesw at cse.unsw.EDU.AU
Tue Feb 1 07:35:28 UTC 2011
Hi Toss,
A speaker "feedback" system is quite feasible and relatively easy
to implement.
However, given your second message and allusion to Red Symons, I must admit
to wondering what you are aiming at - are you intending to use it more in
a competitive or "game" mode rather than as a training tool ... perhaps after
an after conference dinner?
Your clarification would be appreciated.
Many Thanks,
Charlesw
On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 05:37:09PM +1100, Toss Gascoigne wrote:
> Hi Helen, Phil, Jan, Will et al
>
> Your suggestions cover many possibilities, but I'm after something
> different: an instrument to cut boring speakers off.
>
> It would consist of 10 remote control devices and a master panel on the
> speaker's podium. The master panel has a row of 10 small LEDs.
>
> The idea is that 10 people in the audience are given a remote control
> unit; and when they decide they would like the speaker to stop, they
> press a button.
>
> This causes one of the 10 lights on the control board to come on, and
> when (say) 6 lights are on, the speaker must sit down immediately.
>
> So - who could be commissioned to make one of these? What would be the
> best way of doing it?.
>
> Think Red Symons and the gong on "Red Faces".
>
> (On the different issue of keeping speakers to time, Helen Sims' idea
> works well. That's the one where the chair first styands to indicate
> the speaker is in their last minute, and when time is up, begins to walk
> towards the speaker.)
>
> Toss G
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> On 01/02/2011, at 5:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote:
>
>> Along Helen's lines, it often works well, when a convenor/MC gets up
>> in the last minute (which serves as a visual reminder) and then is
>> able to wind it up by saying, "OK, before we thank.....are there any
>> questions?"
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au on behalf of Helen Sim
>> Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 12:58 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>>
>> I suggest using a threatening MC for each session. At five minutes to,
>> they give the wind-up signal. At one minute to, they stand up and
>> advance towards the lectern to introduce the next speaker.
>>
>> If all else fails, cut the power to the speaker's mic and and
>> projector.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Helen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/02/11 2:47 PM, Adam Barclay wrote:
>> > I've not tried this, but might it work if the organisers told
>> speakers
>> > they have, say, 12 min each when in fact 15 have been allocated?
>> >
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:17:37 +0800
>> > From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>> > <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>> > To: "Jan Thomas" <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au
>> > <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>, <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> > 'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers
>> to
>> > indicate the time left. At a well-organised conference, the
>> > speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> > simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> > Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end
>> of
>> > each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> > fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1 min).
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan
>> Thomas
>> > Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> > To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> > I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns
>> used
>> > to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> > Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> > polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> > this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > Jan Thomas
>> >
>> > Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute &
>> > Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
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>> > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:23:20 +1100
>> > From: Abigail Thomas <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> > <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>
>> > To: 'Phillip Arena' <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>> > <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>, Jan Thomas
>> > <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
>> > "asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>"
>> > <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>>
>> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>> > We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>> > Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>> > They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>> > ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>> > Just a thought.
>> >
>> > Abbie
>> > (ABC Science Events)
>> >
>> >
>> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip
>> Arena
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>> > To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >
>> > One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> > 'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers
>> to
>> > indicate the time left. At a well-organised conference, the
>> > speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> > simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> > Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end
>> of
>> > each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> > fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1 min).
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan
>> Thomas
>> > Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> > To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> > I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns
>> used
>> > to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> > Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> > polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> > this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > Jan Thomas
>> >
>> > Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute &
>> > Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> > jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
>> > 61-3-8344 1774 (office)
>> > 041 900 6205 (mobile)
>> > 61-3-9349-4106 (Fax)
>> >
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>> > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:38:39 +0800
>> > From: "Phillip Arena" <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
>> > <mailto:P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>>
>> > To: "Abigail Thomas" <Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> > <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>>, "Jan Thomas"
>> > <jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>>,
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>> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
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>> > I agree, buzzing in the ear is distracting.
>> >
>> > I'm presuming speakers know the length of their presentations
>> > ahead of time (I'm having a flashback to my first presentation
>> > back in 1989 at the First World Congress of Herpetology where
>> I'd
>> > had my presentation whittled to 11.5 mins!....oh, and they used
>> > the 3 coloured light system that time).
>> >
>> > Speakers then are also reminded (eg. in the introduction to each
>> > session) that they will be notified (in some form) when they
>> have
>> > say, 1 minute left.
>> >
>> > Reminders will serve to more 'prepare' each speaker to
>> potentially
>> > being cut off without turning to mush.
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Abigail Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au
>> > <mailto:Thomas.Abigail at abc.net.au>]
>> > Sent: Tue 2/1/2011 10:23 AM
>> > To: Phillip Arena; Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> > We tried the in-ear feedback system a few years ago for a Caf?
>> > Scientific, and the guest speakers and host said they hated it.
>> > They said it was too distracting to have someone buzzing in your
>> > ear, as well as be listening to the other panelists.
>> > Just a thought.
>> >
>> > Abbie
>> > (ABC Science Events)
>> >
>> >
>> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>] On Behalf Of Phillip
>> Arena
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2011 1:18 PM
>> > To: Jan Thomas; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> >
>> > One of the most effective methods of time management is when the
>> > 'convenor' of the session simply holds up his/her hand/fingers
>> to
>> > indicate the time left. At a well-organised conference, the
>> > speakers of each session briefly meet each convenor (or they
>> > simply know who it is once the convenor introduces the session).
>> > Speakers are then told that fingers are held up towards the end
>> of
>> > each presentation to indicate how much time is left (usually 3
>> > fingers for 3 mins and 1 finger for 1 min).
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
>> > <mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Jan
>> Thomas
>> > Sent: Mon 1/31/2011 6:11 PM
>> > To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au <mailto:asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> > Subject: [ASC-list] Speaker control
>> >
>> > I have used a small bell and a big bell of the type the nuns
>> used
>> > to use in the school I was at.
>> >
>> > Small bell is preliminary warning eg 2 minutes to go - a nice
>> > polite tinkle. After that it's the big bell. In the modern world
>> > this may not be sexy but it sure as hell works!
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Jan
>> >
>> > Jan Thomas
>> >
>> > Executive Officer: Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute &
>> > Australian Council of Heads of Mathematical Sciences
>> > jan.thomas at amsi.org.au <mailto:jan.thomas at amsi.org.au>
>> > 61-3-8344 1774 (office)
>> > 041 900 6205 (mobile)
>> > 61-3-9349-4106 (Fax)
>> >
>> > Australian Mathematical Sciences Institute
>> > www.amsi.org.au <http://www.amsi.org.au>
>> >
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>> > National Innovation Award for Science Innovation
>> > 111 Barry Street
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