[ASC-list] Fwd: Sci Comm careers: Science Degree + ? // Is it worth doing a general graduate communicaitons diploma?

Niall Byrne niall at scienceinpublic.com.au
Thu Feb 2 08:04:04 UTC 2012


I'm with Cobi.



There's no harm in getting further training but...



When we're looking for staff, qualifications help. But the key question for us is, are they out there communicating.



Can they show that they have

*         a passion for science

*         an intuitive grasp of communication/writing

*         a track record of paid or unpaid activity that demonstrates the above.



A year with the science circus helps, but isn't essential.



I'd encourage her to see if she can get some work experience or internship somewhere so she can explore the various aspects of the game and see what position she wants to play in.



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She could consider the ANU 1-year Masters at the Centre for Public Awareness of Science (CPAS) as I think it's a scholarship course so may not be out of financial reach - http://cpas.anu.edu.au/study/future-students/master-science-communication-outreach.



Also, she (and others) should consider doing freelance writing for magazines and newspapers to build up a CV, experience and contacts. The Helix (http://www.csiro.au/thehelix) and Scientriffic (http://www.csiro.au/scientriffic) are both generally willing to give new writers a go (unpaid at first) and provide feedback if asked nicely.



Full disclosure - I'm a CPAS alumni and used to work on The Helix and Scientriffic, but I still think they're both pretty good.





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From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au]<mailto:[mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au]> On Behalf Of Cobi Smith

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If she's not able to move somewhere for a specialised course then I would tend to say no - don't do a general communications diploma. Instead, volunteer with community media and other non-profits, do internships, or offer to volunteer at conferences (eg. http://www.crca.asn.au/conference/, http://ma2012.org.au) to gain experience.



Based in Victoria, she could volunteer with a science radio show http://einsteinagogo.net/, a museum http://museumvictoria.com.au/about/work-opportunities/volunteering/, various environment or health charities, or various websites that seek bloggers about science.



I think real-world experience is better than another qualification if she's trying to break into the field.



Cheers, Cobi





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From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au]<mailto:[mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au]> On Behalf Of Nancy Longnecker

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Hello Regan,



I think your advice is sound.



It's a pity Tessa can't move interstate. Some of the classes in the UWA science communication courses (Graduate Diploma and Master of Science Communication) resonate with your suggestion:



SCOM8702 Exhibitions and Interpretation

SCOM8307 Evaluating Science Engagement



etc.



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Hi Kali,



Particularly given a zoology background, I'd be tempted to suggest Tessa looks into courses that include interpretation training with a natural sciences leaning. These are often geared towards Parks and Wildlife people, but the skills are transferable and probably will have more resonance than a generic comms course.



I think Deakin runs a cultural heritage management course that might have course units that fit the bill.



Interpretation (particularly of natural heritage) and Science Communication have much in common - but we each seem to have created our own silos such that we are often not aware of what each other is doing!



(Full disclosure - I'm Vice President of Interpretation Australia

www.interpretationaustralia.asn.au<http://www.interpretationaustralia.asn.au>)



Best wishes,



Regan





On 02.02.2012 12:54, Kali Madden wrote:

> Hi ASC-Listers,

>

> From time to time we have people seeking study and career advice as

> they have decided they want to become a science communicator.

>

> This sort of information is often obtained by speaking to people

> who've done it already, whether at local branch events or a national

> event with sessions like: "Science Communication is what I want to do,

> now what?" *

>

> So, apart from joining the ASC and becoming involved with local and

> national events, what would you recommend for those who wish to know

> how to navigate their way in to a Science Communication career?

>

> We have an inquiry below from Tessa who wonders whether further

> general communications study on top of her existing science degree

> would support her aims.

>

> Thoughts? Feedback? Suggestions?

>

> Cheers,

>

> Kali

>

> * See:

>

> http://2012conf.asc.asn.au/2011/12/24/plenary-4-%E2%80%9Cscience-commu

> nication-is-what-i-want-to-do-now-what-career-possibilities-and-resour

> ces%E2%80%9D/

> [1]

>

> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

> From: TESSA K

> Date: Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:41 PM

>  Subject: Is it worth doing a general graduate communicaitons diploma?

> To: office at asc.asn.au<mailto:office at asc.asn.au> [3]

>

> Hi Kali,

>

> I spoke to you on the phone last week about courses.  If you could

> pass on what I have written below as we discussed, that would be

> fantastic.

>

> I am interested in science communication and I have a degree in

> science with honours (Zoology). But as there are no courses on science

> communication in Victoria and I cannot afford to move interstate to

> study, I would like some advise on whether it would be worth doing a

> general communications graduate diploma.

>

> The courses I'm looking at are:

> http://www.vu.edu.au/courses/graduate-diploma-in-communication-agco

> [4]

>

> http://courses.swinburne.edu.au/courses/Graduate-Diploma-of-Arts-(Medi

> a-and-Communications)-N0817/local

> [5]

>

> http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=A63

> 9&stutype=local&continue=Continue

> [6]

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

>

> Thank you,

> Tessa Koumoundouros

>

> tesskou at gmail.com<mailto:tesskou at gmail.com> [7]

>

> ----------------------

> Kali Madden

> ASC Office

>

>

>

> Links:

> ------

> [1]

>

> http://2012conf.asc.asn.au/2011/12/24/plenary-4-%E2%80%9Cscience-commu

> nication-is-what-i-want-to-do-now-what-career-possibilities-and-resour

> ces%E2%80%9D/

> [2] mailto:tesskou at gmail.com

> [3] mailto:office at asc.asn.au

> [4]

> http://www.vu.edu.au/courses/graduate-diploma-in-communication-agco

> [5]

>

> http://courses.swinburne.edu.au/courses/Graduate-Diploma-of-Arts-%28Me

> dia-and-Communications%29-N0817/local

> [6]

>

> http://www.deakin.edu.au/future-students/courses/course.php?course=A63

> 9|+|amp|+|stutype=local|+|amp|+|continue=Continue

> [7] mailto:tesskou at gmail.com



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