[ASC-list] Science in demand this year

Phillip Arena P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au
Thu Jan 19 05:12:32 UTC 2012

I agree Rob. In the past, we've had the sprouting of courses such as Forensic Sciences (even extending back into the secondary sector) largely in response to the popularity of CSI on television (in a similar fashion to the correlation between Law enrolments with 'LA Law'). With regards to Forensic Science, there was little opportunity for students to get work in this field, certainly in Australia so I was left wondering why we were teaching it to such high numbers. 

I'd be interested in a breakdown of what specific science programs are offered (and yes, I'm really holding back on my 'cynical' view - as I believe, regardless of what is happening with enrolments in science, there is still a bigger picture).



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No, not seeing the glass as half empty - I'd be delighted if these figures are truly reflecting increased enrolments in reputable science courses - but given how many Aussie universities (half) are now offering pseudoscience courses as science, it does warrant a bit of dissection of the figures to find out exactly what science is involved here. Science is, as we know, a broad field with increasing numbers of pseudoscience interlopers.


Dr Rob Morrison
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An interesting discussion. But are you all seeing the glass as half empty?

Science is the most popular course at UniMelb. Arts is second. Biomedical courses are third.

If these trends are being repeated at other Group of Eights (hopefully none of whom are teaching iridology) then there has to be at least a glimmer of good news.

BTW I should note that my numbers were sourced from VTAC and include everyone, not just first preferences.

Melbourne's first preference numbers are on the web here. http://newsroom.melbourne.edu/news/n-735

And I understand that they have not taken up the government offer for more places.



Niall Byrne

Creative Director
Science in Public

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