[ASC-list] ASC-list Digest, Vol 99, Issue 36

Marina Hurley info at writingclearscience.com.au
Tue Feb 26 22:16:22 UTC 2013


Perhaps ASC does not need to reinvent the wheel and reproduce a stand style
guide *per se* as there are many good ones already out (eg Australian
Government Style Guide). However there is a wealth of knowledge and
experience within ASC and something could be fashioned that adds to what is
already out there, especially from the perspective of Australian science
communication. I think it would be good to produce something sets a
standard without perhaps getting sidetracked by some matters more related
to personal preference than scientific accuracy and clarity. I produce
similar material for my workshops and would be happy to collaborate on a
project of this nature.

cheers

Marina

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Renato Schibeci <R.Schibeci at murdoch.edu.au>
> To: <list at asc.asn.au>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:25:03 +0800
> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> Agreed.
>
> I think we need to be careful mot to confuse important language problems
> with less important language problems.
>
> Language is especially important when it is misleading or offensive ('The
> public supports GM canola' or 'They don't speak as good as me, so they are
> different...').
>
> There are forms of grammar up with which I will not put, but such language
> problems are less important - by all means, let's continue the good fight
> (my pet dislike is '15 items or less' at a certain supermarket) but we need
> to keep a sense of proportion.
>
> Renato
>
>
> On 26/02/13 11:40 AM, "Mike.Mcrae at csiro.au" <Mike.Mcrae at csiro.au> wrote:
>
> > (Wading into the firefight here...without a helmet...)
> >
> > When I was teaching in London, I lost count of how often I was chastised
> for
> > saying 'yo-gurt' instead of 'yog-urt', and 'vie-ta-min' instead of
> > 'vitt-a-min'. Some knew being Australian meant I was going to saying
> things
> > differently. Most kids just assumed I didn't know how to say the words
> their
> > way...the 'right' way.
> >
> > All language is associated with cultural baggage. Say it wrong, and you
> mark
> > yourself as being from somewhere else - maybe the wrong side of the
> tracks, or
> > as somebody who is trying to sound like they're from another culture
> (like -
> > horror of horrors - America!). You might sound uneducated, ignorant or
> > uninformed. In any case, your choice of words says whether you're one of
> us,
> > or one of 'them'.
> >
> > As communicators, we have a tough time choosing words. Our goal is to be
> > understood by an audience, with minimal loss of information. But it also
> needs
> > to carry identity; the language has to be associated with a trusted and
> > respectable authority. We can't pretend this is easy to do.
> >
> > For my money, communicators need to be precise and intentional with their
> > language and not rely on accident of culture. But the answer to
> achieving that
> > isn't to presume there is a universally 'correct' choice of words, or a
> > standard style guide. Rather, like an effective translator, a good
> > communicator knows the two cultures they're communicating between.
> >
> > There's a thin line between ethnocentric righteousness and a desire for
> > effective communication which means while it's important to argue about
> word
> > usage, it shouldn't stray into being about cultural superiority.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
> > [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of
> Helen.Sim at csiro.au
> > Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 11:55 AM
> > To: Sim, Helen (CASS, Marsfield); rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au
> > Cc: jenni at econnect.com.au; list at asc.asn.au
> > Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >
> > A start might be to encourage organisations to have style guides and to
> > actually use them: that is, to give some conscious thought to these
> matters.
> >
> > Or do you think there are more basic problems that should be tackled
> first?
> >
> > - Helen
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
> > [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of
> Helen.Sim at csiro.au
> > Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 11:37 AM
> > To: rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au
> > Cc: list at asc.asn.au; jenni at econnect.com.au
> > Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >
> > Clearly, the natives are restless. But what are we actually going to DO?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Helen
> > ------
> > Helen Sim
> > Media Liaison and Public Relations
> >
> > CSIRO Astronomy and Space Science
> > and
> > Australian Astronomical Observatory
> >
> > T: +61 2 9372 4251
> > M: +61 419 635 905
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26/02/2013, at 10:30 AM, Rob Morrison wrote:
> >
> > Hear hear! Listining to commentators sayting KilOMeter is as irritating
> as
> > listening to a repeated sniff. I'd add to this list that the great
> cliche of
> > science reporting, "breakthrough" and wonder why so many scientists
> misuse the
> > terms of their trade such as "theory" when they mean "hypothesis",
> "Proof"
> > where there is support and why so many ubiquitously use  "bug" for
> everything
> > from computer faults and stomach ailments to spiders, viruses and lethal
> > bacteria. No wonder people are so hopelessly confused about when (and
> when
> > not) to take antibiotics.
> >
> > People argue that words become misused because people go for the shorter
> if
> > incorrect version (eg "like" instead of "as if" or "as though"), but that
> > explanation falls down when you hear "for free" instead of the shorter
> "free"
> > and the incessant parrotting of the 4-syllable "absolutely" instead of
> the
> > 1-syllable "yes". Trying to help the young understand that "like" goes
> with
> > nouns while "as" goes with verbs is now pointless when they are no longer
> > taught what nouns and verbs actually are.
> >
> > Cliches in reporting, or course, are not restricted to science writing.
> Does
> > anyone ever die of cancer these days without dying after some kind of
> "battle
> > with cancer" (usually a long one), while the poor old Queenslanders last
> year
> > were beset with either a "wall of water" or an "inland tsunami" in
> alternating
> > reports.
> >
> > As we shed journalists (especially older journalists who have some
> grammatical
> > insights) we can expect much more of this, and those who are shot will be
> > "gunned down", small towns enduring a calamity will suddenly become
> > "tight-knit communities" and things not going to plan will inevitably
> "spiral
> > out of control"
> >
> > Rave over. Count me in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr Rob Morrison
> > rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au<mailto:rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au>
> > Phone: (08) 8339 3790
> > Fax: (08)8339 6272
> > ________________________________
> > From:
> > asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:
> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
> > [asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:
> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>]
> > on behalf of David Ellyard
> > [david at davidellyard.com<mailto:david at davidellyard.com>]
> > Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013 10:50 PM
> > To: 'Lamberts Rod'; 'Jenni Metcalfe'
> > Cc: list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >
> > Crankies
> >
> > My target of my abhorrence is spoken not written. It is all but just
> universal
> > pronunciation  of "kilometre" with the same stresses as "thermometer",
> rather
> > than as with "centimetre". I blame Gough Whitlam (one of the few things I
> > blame him for, though there are others). I have mostly given up on it
> but it
> > still riles.
> >
> > I also hate "for free" (meaning at no cost), but that is not limited to
> > scicomm.
> >
> > Count me in.
> >
> > David
> > From:
> > asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:
> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
> > [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lamberts Rod
> > Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 9:24 AM
> > To: Jenni Metcalfe
> > Cc: list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> > Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >
> > I'm on that old and cranky team, too Jenni! Though I confess sometimes I
> give
> > up when I see that fiendish 's' <shrug>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > R
> >
> > On 23/02/2013, at 10:44 AM, Jenni Metcalfe
> > <jenni at econnect.com.au<mailto:jenni at econnect.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is there anyone except me who gets annoyed by the use of the word
> > "communicationS" - i.e. communication with an S on the end?
> >
> > As my colleague, Wendy Parsons, pointed out when I was working at CSIRO
> almost
> > 18 years ago... this use of the word generally relates to cables, wires
> and
> > similar infrastructure.
> >
> > Perhaps, I am just getting old and cranky?
> >
> > Jenni Metcalfe
> > Director, Econnect Communication
> > www.econnect.com.au<http://www.econnect.com.au>
> > phone: 07 3846 7111; 0408 551 866
> > jenni at econnect.com.au<mailto:jenni at econnect.com.au>
> > skype: jenni.metcalfe
> > PO Box 734 South Brisbane Q 4101
> > subscribe to Econnect's free monthly e-newsletter:
> > http://www.econnect.com.au/news_newsletter.htm
> >
> > <image001.png><https://twitter.com/#!/econnectteam>
> > <image002.png><
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Econnect-Team/157913364253434>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > ASC-list mailing list
> > list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> >
> http://www.asc.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=115
> >
> > ___________________________________________________
> >
> > Dr Rod Lamberts
> > National President
> > Australian Science Communicators
> > http://www.asc.asn.au/
> >
> >
> > <image001.png>
> >
> >
> >
> > M: 0412 631 016
> > T: @rodl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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>
> Renato
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Associate Professor Renato Schibeci
> BSc DipEd MSc MEd PhD FRACI
> School of Education  Murdoch University Murdoch Western Australia 6150
> Australia  Phone (08) 9360 2168   Fax (08) 9360 6296
> International Phone 61-8-9360 2168   Fax 61-8-9360 6296
> email: R.Schibeci at murdoch.edu.au
> http://www.education.murdoch.edu.au/staff/renato_schibeci.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Susan Kirk <skirk at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:43:35 +1000
> Subject: [ASC-list] Science communicationS
> Americanisation or is that Americanization.  Because have you noticed that
> as you get a little bit grumpier your spelling prowess declines, only
> marginally mind, and you start to change that s for a zee, because your a
> tad unsure.  I hate this with every fiber of my being.
>
>
> Susan Kirk   B.comm  freelance Journalist
> Member and Queensland Web Editor -  Australian Science Communicators (ASC)
> Media Entertainment and Arts Alliance (MEAA)
> tel: +61 7 5478 6761 | mobile: 0423342867 | email: susan at susankirk.com.au
> www.susankirk.com.au |  Skype: susanakirk | Tweet: susanakirk
>
> ³If you don¹t ask the right questions you won¹t get the right answers.²
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Phillip Arena <P.Arena at murdoch.edu.au>
> To: Renato Schibeci <R.Schibeci at murdoch.edu.au>, <list at asc.asn.au>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:04:04 +0800
> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> I too agree.
>
> I believe that it also just as important to be aware of the 'process' of
> communication and how words evolve.
>
> For example, I still write 'e-mail' but in recent usage polls, there were
> around 6 instances of 'email' to every 1 'e-mail', much higher than the
> previous two years. The APA stylebook too, is now listing 'email', website
> (as opposed to web site), online, internet etc. The trend appears to be
> obliterate the hyphen with increasing usage.
>
> The lexicographical machines works as follows: start off with a rule, bend
> the rule (through polite ignorance, laziness or convenience), state that
> 'either form is acceptable', break the rule, voilé! spit out the new word.
>
> I now tend to focus on consistency as I tremble with my quill in hand.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
>
> On 26/2/13 12:25 PM, "Renato Schibeci" <R.Schibeci at murdoch.edu.au> wrote:
>
> > Agreed.
> >
> > I think we need to be careful mot to confuse important language problems
> > with less important language problems.
> >
> > Language is especially important when it is misleading or offensive ('The
> > public supports GM canola' or 'They don't speak as good as me, so they
> are
> > different...').
> >
> > There are forms of grammar up with which I will not put, but such
> language
> > problems are less important - by all means, let's continue the good fight
> > (my pet dislike is '15 items or less' at a certain supermarket) but we
> need
> > to keep a sense of proportion.
> >
> > Renato
> >
> >
> > On 26/02/13 11:40 AM, "Mike.Mcrae at csiro.au" <Mike.Mcrae at csiro.au> wrote:
> >
> >> (Wading into the firefight here...without a helmet...)
> >>
> >> When I was teaching in London, I lost count of how often I was
> chastised for
> >> saying 'yo-gurt' instead of 'yog-urt', and 'vie-ta-min' instead of
> >> 'vitt-a-min'. Some knew being Australian meant I was going to saying
> things
> >> differently. Most kids just assumed I didn't know how to say the words
> their
> >> way...the 'right' way.
> >>
> >> All language is associated with cultural baggage. Say it wrong, and you
> mark
> >> yourself as being from somewhere else - maybe the wrong side of the
> tracks,
> >> or
> >> as somebody who is trying to sound like they're from another culture
> (like -
> >> horror of horrors - America!). You might sound uneducated, ignorant or
> >> uninformed. In any case, your choice of words says whether you're one
> of us,
> >> or one of 'them'.
> >>
> >> As communicators, we have a tough time choosing words. Our goal is to be
> >> understood by an audience, with minimal loss of information. But it also
> >> needs
> >> to carry identity; the language has to be associated with a trusted and
> >> respectable authority. We can't pretend this is easy to do.
> >>
> >> For my money, communicators need to be precise and intentional with
> their
> >> language and not rely on accident of culture. But the answer to
> achieving
> >> that
> >> isn't to presume there is a universally 'correct' choice of words, or a
> >> standard style guide. Rather, like an effective translator, a good
> >> communicator knows the two cultures they're communicating between.
> >>
> >> There's a thin line between ethnocentric righteousness and a desire for
> >> effective communication which means while it's important to argue about
> word
> >> usage, it shouldn't stray into being about cultural superiority.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
> >> [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of
> Helen.Sim at csiro.au
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 11:55 AM
> >> To: Sim, Helen (CASS, Marsfield); rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au
> >> Cc: jenni at econnect.com.au; list at asc.asn.au
> >> Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >>
> >> A start might be to encourage organisations to have style guides and to
> >> actually use them: that is, to give some conscious thought to these
> matters.
> >>
> >> Or do you think there are more basic problems that should be tackled
> first?
> >>
> >> - Helen
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au
> >> [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of
> Helen.Sim at csiro.au
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 26 February 2013 11:37 AM
> >> To: rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au
> >> Cc: list at asc.asn.au; jenni at econnect.com.au
> >> Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >>
> >> Clearly, the natives are restless. But what are we actually going to DO?
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Helen
> >> ------
> >> Helen Sim
> >> Media Liaison and Public Relations
> >>
> >> CSIRO Astronomy and Space Science
> >> and
> >> Australian Astronomical Observatory
> >>
> >> T: +61 2 9372 4251
> >> M: +61 419 635 905
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 26/02/2013, at 10:30 AM, Rob Morrison wrote:
> >>
> >> Hear hear! Listining to commentators sayting KilOMeter is as irritating
> as
> >> listening to a repeated sniff. I'd add to this list that the great
> cliche of
> >> science reporting, "breakthrough" and wonder why so many scientists
> misuse
> >> the
> >> terms of their trade such as "theory" when they mean "hypothesis",
> "Proof"
> >> where there is support and why so many ubiquitously use  "bug" for
> everything
> >> from computer faults and stomach ailments to spiders, viruses and lethal
> >> bacteria. No wonder people are so hopelessly confused about when (and
> when
> >> not) to take antibiotics.
> >>
> >> People argue that words become misused because people go for the
> shorter if
> >> incorrect version (eg "like" instead of "as if" or "as though"), but
> that
> >> explanation falls down when you hear "for free" instead of the shorter
> "free"
> >> and the incessant parrotting of the 4-syllable "absolutely" instead of
> the
> >> 1-syllable "yes". Trying to help the young understand that "like" goes
> with
> >> nouns while "as" goes with verbs is now pointless when they are no
> longer
> >> taught what nouns and verbs actually are.
> >>
> >> Cliches in reporting, or course, are not restricted to science writing.
> Does
> >> anyone ever die of cancer these days without dying after some kind of
> "battle
> >> with cancer" (usually a long one), while the poor old Queenslanders
> last year
> >> were beset with either a "wall of water" or an "inland tsunami" in
> >> alternating
> >> reports.
> >>
> >> As we shed journalists (especially older journalists who have some
> >> grammatical
> >> insights) we can expect much more of this, and those who are shot will
> be
> >> "gunned down", small towns enduring a calamity will suddenly become
> >> "tight-knit communities" and things not going to plan will inevitably
> "spiral
> >> out of control"
> >>
> >> Rave over. Count me in.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr Rob Morrison
> >> rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au<mailto:rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au>
> >> Phone: (08) 8339 3790
> >> Fax: (08)8339 6272
> >> ________________________________
> >> From:
> >> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:
> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
> >> [asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:
> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>]
> >> on behalf of David Ellyard
> >> [david at davidellyard.com<mailto:david at davidellyard.com>]
> >> Sent: Sunday, 24 February 2013 10:50 PM
> >> To: 'Lamberts Rod'; 'Jenni Metcalfe'
> >> Cc: list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> >> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >>
> >> Crankies
> >>
> >> My target of my abhorrence is spoken not written. It is all but just
> >> universal
> >> pronunciation  of "kilometre" with the same stresses as "thermometer",
> rather
> >> than as with "centimetre". I blame Gough Whitlam (one of the few things
> I
> >> blame him for, though there are others). I have mostly given up on it
> but it
> >> still riles.
> >>
> >> I also hate "for free" (meaning at no cost), but that is not limited to
> >> scicomm.
> >>
> >> Count me in.
> >>
> >> David
> >> From:
> >> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au<mailto:
> asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au>
> >> [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lamberts Rod
> >> Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 9:24 AM
> >> To: Jenni Metcalfe
> >> Cc: list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> >> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Science CommunicationS
> >>
> >> I'm on that old and cranky team, too Jenni! Though I confess sometimes
> I give
> >> up when I see that fiendish 's' <shrug>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> R
> >>
> >> On 23/02/2013, at 10:44 AM, Jenni Metcalfe
> >> <jenni at econnect.com.au<mailto:jenni at econnect.com.au>> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there anyone except me who gets annoyed by the use of the word
> >> "communicationS" - i.e. communication with an S on the end?
> >>
> >> As my colleague, Wendy Parsons, pointed out when I was working at CSIRO
> >> almost
> >> 18 years ago... this use of the word generally relates to cables, wires
> and
> >> similar infrastructure.
> >>
> >> Perhaps, I am just getting old and cranky?
> >>
> >> Jenni Metcalfe
> >> Director, Econnect Communication
> >> www.econnect.com.au<http://www.econnect.com.au>
> >> phone: 07 3846 7111; 0408 551 866
> >> jenni at econnect.com.au<mailto:jenni at econnect.com.au>
> >> skype: jenni.metcalfe
> >> PO Box 734 South Brisbane Q 4101
> >> subscribe to Econnect's free monthly e-newsletter:
> >> http://www.econnect.com.au/news_newsletter.htm
> >>
> >> <image001.png><https://twitter.com/#!/econnectteam>
> >> <image002.png><
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Econnect-Team/157913364253434>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ASC-list mailing list
> >> list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> >>
> http://www.asc.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=115
> >>
> >> ___________________________________________________
> >>
> >> Dr Rod Lamberts
> >> National President
> >> Australian Science Communicators
> >> http://www.asc.asn.au/
> >>
> >>
> >> <image001.png>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> M: 0412 631 016
> >> T: @rodl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ASC-list mailing list
> >> list at asc.asn.au<mailto:list at asc.asn.au>
> >>
> http://www.asc.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=115
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ASC-list mailing list
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