[ASC-list] ASC conference

Cobi Smith cobi.smith at anu.edu.au
Sat Nov 16 02:22:11 UTC 2013


I agree that the costs of participating in the ASC conference can be prohibitive for those without the backing of a university or other large organization that covers professional development or presentation costs.

I hypothesize that staff or students of research organizations are overrepresented at the conference, compared to freelancers and independent small businesses who are ASC members, given the latter have to fund their own overheads and professional development.

To promote independence, innovation and entrepreneurship and reduce dependence on taxpayer funds, I think ASC should seek to make future conferences more accessible to small businesses, particularly those accepted to present in some way at the conference.

I also think ASC needs to specifically get feedback from members not participating in the conference, as well as those participating. Then it needs to take evaluation results seriously in future planning. All of it - not just results that align with existing plans. 

I would definitely use discussion on the mailing list as part of evaluation, given it's member-driven and openly shared. 

Cheers, Cobi 



Sent from a mobile device, so please excuse misspellings or brevity.

> On 15 Nov 2013, at 2:18 pm, "Susan Kirk" <skirk at iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Lee. Lets strengthen our base.  I wasn't going to put this to
> the list but now I think its appropriate. To put it in context it happened a
> while back before this discussion.
> 
> I submitted a proposal for a workshop to the conference committee for the
> ASC conference, until, I discovered that I would be expected to pay for that
> privilege.  OK not completely I think there is $60 off the registration fees
> for presenters.  Anyway I withdrew my proposal.  I told Kali of my concerns
> and she suggested that I also take the discussion to the list to get an
> opinion on 'why people take the time to put on a session at the conference.'
> 
> Now I don't really need an answer to that question because I can second
> guess most of the reasons.  However, if there is a reason that is not
> outlined below then of course I'm very eager to know it.
> 
> To place the discussion in context my main question was why are presenters
> being asked to donate their time and not being given something in return ie
> at least free entrance to the event.  Kali mentioned points about
> professional development/ career prospects etc and giving back to the
> community etc.
> 
> My responses.   I appreciate the concept of giving to the community.  I¹m
> more than willing to donate my time Ofree of charge¹ in an effort to
> encourage and mentor others, and have done this many many times over the
> course of my career.  BUT: I don¹t believe I should be charged for the
> privilege.
> 
> As a freelance journalist I don¹t have a need to further my career by doing
> workshops and networking while beneficial is not a motive for me.  I do
> understand if this is of benefit to others and why others may do this, I
> still don¹t agree with it, but that¹s their choice.  My motive, in all
> honesty, was based on a win-win negotiation.  I give the ASC  many hours of
> my time and they give me free entrance to the conference.  I still haven¹t
> received an adequate reply as to why this is not the case?  Call me selfish
> but even in this situation I still think the scales are slightly tipped and
> not in my favour.  Should we be undervaluing our members time this way?
> 
> Kali mentioned the lack of sponsorship dollars.  I really don't know much
> about the industry from this viewpoint so I can't comment on this.  She went
> on to say that the conference rarely breaks even.  To this I say  if the
> conference event is not  breaking even, then the ASC may need to consider
> how or why it is running this event? If its based on a premise that it will
> only be supported in kind by its members; well that's only going to work if
> we are thousands strong.  And again, that's not really in kind.
> 
> If the ASC wants to become more  Oprofessional¹ then it needs to put its
> members first and, in my mind, that doesn¹t mean devaluing their work.  In
> my experience with non profit organisations and memberships like ASC they
> never truly become successful until they stop Ousing up¹ volunteers and get
> motivated to become financially viable.
> 
> Again all of this is happening in a vacuum.  You all know my gripe about
> that.   It¹s your membership what say yee other ASC members??  Should those
> who donate their time conducting workshops be at least given free entrance
> to the conference.  Oh oh I forgot to say imagine if I was interstate, so
> the ASC would expect me to donate my time; pay for my ticket; and
> accommodation and pay to attend the conference cmon....
> 
> S
> 
> On 15/11/13 8:50 PM, "asc-list-request at lists.asc.asn.au"
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>>   1. Re: Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>>      (Mobile Science Education)
>>   2. Re: Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons (Niall Byrne)
>>   3. Re: Where is the ASC headed ... Code of ethics (Rob Morrison)
>>   4. Re: Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>>      (Mobile Science Education)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:07:00 +1030
>> From: "Mobile Science Education" <info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au>
>> To: "'Niall Byrne'" <niall at scienceinpublic.com.au>, "'Lisa Bailey'"
>> <LBailey at riaus.org.au>, <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
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>> So the 2007 conference isn't really indicative of an ASC conference.
>> 
>> The money is only part of it, though. Even if the money weren't such an
>> issue, it still takes the majority of the time made available by staff and
>> volunteers; time used to benefit only a small minority of members who can
>> afford the time and expense of the conference. If so much time, risk, effort
>> and expense is benefiting only the minority then I would say priorities have
>> been misplaced.
>> 
>> I would also question Nancy's assertion that "the biennial gathering of
>> science communicators for a face to face meeting is crucial". Why is it
>> crucial? Nothing on the posted list of Top 10 Reasons requires one. I agree
>> that a decent national conference would be a good goal to work toward, but I
>> would suggest that it's a goal that belongs to the larger organisation that
>> ASC could be in the future. In the meantime, strengthen the base by focusing
>> efforts at the local chapters and online. Make ASC such an attractive
>> association that the eventual membership roll justifies the conference.
>> 
>> I would also second Rob's call to reconsider Julian's proposed Code of
>> Ethics, or anyone else's proposals for that matter.
>> 
>> Lee Harrison
>> Mobile Science Education
>> ?
>> 0430 588 757 or (08) 8395 9586
>> info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> www.mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> PO Box 556, Ingle Farm, SA 5098
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Niall
>> Byrne
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:46 PM
>> To: Lisa Bailey; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference was held jointly with AMWA and the World Federation of
>> Science Journalists and attracted 620 delegates. There were a few other spin
>> out activities.
>> 
>> There's potential for ASC to do similar things in the future with PCST,
>> WFSJ, and others. Of course the first ASC conference was held with the PCST
>> in 1996.
>> 
>> However, the 2007 conference was also a large undertaking with a total
>> budget in excess of $1.2 million. Some of us involved in it took some big
>> personal financial risks for which we were compensated when the dollars came
>> in post-event. Many others put in a great deal of time.
>> 
>> Niall
>> 
>> ________
>> 
>> Niall Byrne
>> ?
>> Science in Public
>> 0417 131 977, niall at scienceinpublic.com.au Twitter scienceinpublic Full
>> contact details at?www.scienceinpublic.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lisa
>> Bailey
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:53 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference did co-incide with a much larger international World
>> Conference of Science Journalists didn't it?  Might explain why there was a
>> bigger drawcard that year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 04:55:41 +0000
>> From: Niall Byrne <niall at scienceinpublic.com.au>
>> To: Mobile Science Education <info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au>,
>> "'Lisa Bailey'" <LBailey at riaus.org.au>, "asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au"
>> <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
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>> I disagree. 
>> 
>> The conference is potentially incredibly powerful. I'd argue that as ASC grows
>> it should become an annual conference. Many smaller organisations do so
>> successfully including the medical writers.
>> 
>> It's where we can engage with science leaders for example for the coming ASC
>> conference we'll have the opportunity to grill the head of the ARC and
>> hopefully of the NHMRC and CSIRO on their priorities in science communication.
>> 
>> It's where we can engage with some of the best practice in the game.
>> 
>> It's where we can engage with other groups - for example the AusSMC and RIAus
>> have often arranged for their board meetings to coincide with ASC conferences.
>> And that's led to past and present SMH editors, Channel Nine news directors
>> and others sharing their perspectives with us.
>> 
>> It broadens our horizons.
>> 
>> It enables collaborations. Three of our past conferences have been
>> collaborations and I think our next one is a collaboration with SCANZ.
>> 
>> Several of the conferences have stood as milestones in science communication
>> and I expect they will continue to do so.
>> 
>> Niall
>> ________
>> 
>> Niall Byrne
>> ?
>> Science in Public????
>> 0417 131 977, niall at scienceinpublic.com.au
>> Twitter scienceinpublic
>> Full contact details at?www.scienceinpublic.com.au
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>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mobile Science Education [mailto:info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au]
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 3:37 PM
>> To: Niall Byrne; 'Lisa Bailey'; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> So the 2007 conference isn't really indicative of an ASC conference.
>> 
>> The money is only part of it, though. Even if the money weren't such an issue,
>> it still takes the majority of the time made available by staff and
>> volunteers; time used to benefit only a small minority of members who can
>> afford the time and expense of the conference. If so much time, risk, effort
>> and expense is benefiting only the minority then I would say priorities have
>> been misplaced.
>> 
>> I would also question Nancy's assertion that "the biennial gathering of
>> science communicators for a face to face meeting is crucial". Why is it
>> crucial? Nothing on the posted list of Top 10 Reasons requires one. I agree
>> that a decent national conference would be a good goal to work toward, but I
>> would suggest that it's a goal that belongs to the larger organisation that
>> ASC could be in the future. In the meantime, strengthen the base by focusing
>> efforts at the local chapters and online. Make ASC such an attractive
>> association that the eventual membership roll justifies the conference.
>> 
>> I would also second Rob's call to reconsider Julian's proposed Code of Ethics,
>> or anyone else's proposals for that matter.
>> 
>> Lee Harrison
>> Mobile Science Education
>> ?
>> 0430 588 757 or (08) 8395 9586
>> info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> www.mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> PO Box 556, Ingle Farm, SA 5098
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Niall
>> Byrne
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:46 PM
>> To: Lisa Bailey; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference was held jointly with AMWA and the World Federation of
>> Science Journalists and attracted 620 delegates. There were a few other spin
>> out activities.
>> 
>> There's potential for ASC to do similar things in the future with PCST, WFSJ,
>> and others. Of course the first ASC conference was held with the PCST in 1996.
>> 
>> However, the 2007 conference was also a large undertaking with a total budget
>> in excess of $1.2 million. Some of us involved in it took some big personal
>> financial risks for which we were compensated when the dollars came in
>> post-event. Many others put in a great deal of time.
>> 
>> Niall
>> 
>> ________
>> 
>> Niall Byrne
>> ?
>> Science in Public
>> 0417 131 977, niall at scienceinpublic.com.au Twitter scienceinpublic Full
>> contact details at?www.scienceinpublic.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lisa
>> Bailey
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:53 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference did co-incide with a much larger international World
>> Conference of Science Journalists didn't it?  Might explain why there was a
>> bigger drawcard that year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 05:05:56 +0000
>> From: Rob Morrison <rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au>
>> To: Niall Byrne <niall at scienceinpublic.com.au>, Lisa Bailey
>> <LBailey at riaus.org.au>, "asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au"
>> <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed ... Code of ethics
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Julian is quite correct in his references to his work on a code of ethics. The
>> executive has (or, rather, several executives have), over the years, produced
>> or nearly produced this code, as well as other guidelines and similar things.
>> I once prepared some guidelines for young Science communicators about how to
>> put stuff on line, and a protocol for email distribution.  Both of these were
>> on the ASC website for years, but would by now have been overtaken by
>> technology and other changes.
>> 
>> Julian was not so fortunate. His was a good list, but in the nature of these
>> things, discussion was protracted and when that extends over a year, there is
>> always the chance that a new Executive comes in and loses track of what the
>> past one has done. Things then get overtaken by new issues. From memory, this
>> happened to Julian's suggestions, It also happened to a lot of work i had done
>> on ASC approval and endorsement for short training programs, and it may have
>> happened to others as well.
>> 
>> It is perhaps in the nature of an association like ASC that this happens,
>> especially with volunteers all pressed for time, but it can mean that those
>> who are prepared to put in a lot of work on something feel that they have
>> wasted their time, and we are then less likely to have them prepared to act
>> again.
>> 
>> I suggest Julian be invited to put his suggestions forward again (I am sure he
>> still has them because he produced them on request for a previous exec)  and
>> we decide to deal with them one way or another within a stated time frame. It
>> will be too close to the AGM to deal with them this year, but they could be
>> placed as an AGM item that we ask the incoming Committee to deal in one
>> definitive way or another  within 6 months.
>> 
>> The Exec list is always too long to get through, but this would give this
>> issue a high priority which, in fairness to Julian, it should by now have.
>> 
>> Dr Rob Morrison
>> rob.morrison at flinders.edu.au
>> Phone: (08) 8339 3790
>> Fax: (08)8339 6272
>> ________________________________________
>> From: ASC-list <asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au> on behalf of Niall Byrne
>> <niall at scienceinpublic.com.au>
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:46 PM
>> To: Lisa Bailey; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference was held jointly with AMWA and the World Federation of
>> Science Journalists and attracted 620 delegates. There were a few other spin
>> out activities.
>> 
>> There's potential for ASC to do similar things in the future with PCST, WFSJ,
>> and others. Of course the first ASC conference was held with the PCST in 1996.
>> 
>> However, the 2007 conference was also a large undertaking with a total budget
>> in excess of $1.2 million. Some of us involved in it took some big personal
>> financial risks for which we were compensated when the dollars came in
>> post-event. Many others put in a great deal of time.
>> 
>> Niall
>> 
>> ________
>> 
>> Niall Byrne
>> 
>> Science in Public
>> 0417 131 977, niall at scienceinpublic.com.au
>> Twitter scienceinpublic
>> Full contact details at www.scienceinpublic.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lisa
>> Bailey
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:53 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference did co-incide with a much larger international World
>> Conference of Science Journalists didn't it?  Might explain why there was a
>> bigger drawcard that year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> ASC-list mailing list
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>> http://www.asc.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=115
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:07:48 +1030
>> From: "Mobile Science Education" <info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au>
>> To: "'Niall Byrne'" <niall at scienceinpublic.com.au>, "'Lisa Bailey'"
>> <LBailey at riaus.org.au>, <asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au>
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> Message-ID:
>> <00dc01cee1c4$d2b0ba00$78122e00$@mobilescienceeducation.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> I agree that the conference is *potentially* powerful. But currently that
>> potential is limited to a minority of ASC members - perhaps the rest may not
>> feel like subsidising the networking opportunities of the few people who can
>> afford to actually be there. And yes, subsidise is the word.
>> 
>> I also believe that the reason some smaller organisations successfully hold
>> an annual conference is because they are more unified in what they do, have
>> a tighter focus, and  the field has a longer history as a recognised
>> profession - we do not have those advantages (see my original post).
>> 
>> I agree that it is a chance to engage with science leaders but, again, it is
>> a chance for the few of us who can be there. Perhaps the rest would rather
>> the money, time and effort were being spent elsewhere?
>> 
>> I'm not sure I agree at all about best practice because a) I haven't
>> actually seen it (not being there, and all...), and b) who makes the
>> determination of 'best practice' and on what metric?
>> 
>> The conference is indeed where some of us can engage with other groups. Not
>> many of us, though - what about the rest of us? The conference can broaden
>> horizons for some few of us, yes - but what about the rest of us?
>> 
>> Do you see my point? I am not, an any way, opposed to a national science
>> communication conference. What I am opposed to is trying to pull one off
>> with *such limited resources* on behalf of *so few* of our members and with
>> such a low success rate.
>> 
>> Lee Harrison
>> Mobile Science Education
>> ?
>> 0430 588 757 or (08) 8395 9586
>> info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> www.mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> PO Box 556, Ingle Farm, SA 5098
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Niall Byrne [mailto:niall at scienceinpublic.com.au]
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 3:26 PM
>> To: Mobile Science Education; 'Lisa Bailey'; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> I disagree. 
>> 
>> The conference is potentially incredibly powerful. I'd argue that as ASC
>> grows it should become an annual conference. Many smaller organisations do
>> so successfully including the medical writers.
>> 
>> It's where we can engage with science leaders for example for the coming ASC
>> conference we'll have the opportunity to grill the head of the ARC and
>> hopefully of the NHMRC and CSIRO on their priorities in science
>> communication. 
>> 
>> It's where we can engage with some of the best practice in the game.
>> 
>> It's where we can engage with other groups - for example the AusSMC and
>> RIAus have often arranged for their board meetings to coincide with ASC
>> conferences. And that's led to past and present SMH editors, Channel Nine
>> news directors and others sharing their perspectives with us.
>> 
>> It broadens our horizons.
>> 
>> It enables collaborations. Three of our past conferences have been
>> collaborations and I think our next one is a collaboration with SCANZ.
>> 
>> Several of the conferences have stood as milestones in science communication
>> and I expect they will continue to do so.
>> 
>> Niall
>> ________
>> 
>> Niall Byrne
>> ?
>> Science in Public
>> 0417 131 977, niall at scienceinpublic.com.au Twitter scienceinpublic Full
>> contact details at?www.scienceinpublic.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mobile Science Education [mailto:info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au]
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 3:37 PM
>> To: Niall Byrne; 'Lisa Bailey'; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: RE: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> So the 2007 conference isn't really indicative of an ASC conference.
>> 
>> The money is only part of it, though. Even if the money weren't such an
>> issue, it still takes the majority of the time made available by staff and
>> volunteers; time used to benefit only a small minority of members who can
>> afford the time and expense of the conference. If so much time, risk, effort
>> and expense is benefiting only the minority then I would say priorities have
>> been misplaced.
>> 
>> I would also question Nancy's assertion that "the biennial gathering of
>> science communicators for a face to face meeting is crucial". Why is it
>> crucial? Nothing on the posted list of Top 10 Reasons requires one. I agree
>> that a decent national conference would be a good goal to work toward, but I
>> would suggest that it's a goal that belongs to the larger organisation that
>> ASC could be in the future. In the meantime, strengthen the base by focusing
>> efforts at the local chapters and online. Make ASC such an attractive
>> association that the eventual membership roll justifies the conference.
>> 
>> I would also second Rob's call to reconsider Julian's proposed Code of
>> Ethics, or anyone else's proposals for that matter.
>> 
>> Lee Harrison
>> Mobile Science Education
>> ?
>> 0430 588 757 or (08) 8395 9586
>> info at mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> www.mobilescienceeducation.com.au
>> PO Box 556, Ingle Farm, SA 5098
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Niall
>> Byrne
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:46 PM
>> To: Lisa Bailey; asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference was held jointly with AMWA and the World Federation of
>> Science Journalists and attracted 620 delegates. There were a few other spin
>> out activities.
>> 
>> There's potential for ASC to do similar things in the future with PCST,
>> WFSJ, and others. Of course the first ASC conference was held with the PCST
>> in 1996.
>> 
>> However, the 2007 conference was also a large undertaking with a total
>> budget in excess of $1.2 million. Some of us involved in it took some big
>> personal financial risks for which we were compensated when the dollars came
>> in post-event. Many others put in a great deal of time.
>> 
>> Niall
>> 
>> ________
>> 
>> Niall Byrne
>> ?
>> Science in Public
>> 0417 131 977, niall at scienceinpublic.com.au Twitter scienceinpublic Full
>> contact details at?www.scienceinpublic.com.au
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lisa
>> Bailey
>> Sent: Friday, 15 November 2013 1:53 PM
>> To: asc-list at lists.asc.asn.au
>> Subject: Re: [ASC-list] Where is the ASC headed and top 10 reasons
>> 
>> The 2007 conference did co-incide with a much larger international World
>> Conference of Science Journalists didn't it?  Might explain why there was a
>> bigger drawcard that year.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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