[ASC-list] What is the ASC? What benefits do its members want?

Susan Kirk skirk at iprimus.com.au
Thu Nov 21 00:27:27 UTC 2013


Bianca no-one said we shouldn't touch it with a barge pole.  I'm getting
really tired of people taking things out of context and making up their own
versions.   We already have a social media presence and its useful.  It fact
its very useful for that purpose you and Sarah are keen to promote, but it
has its limitations.

I suppose it all goes back to this question: what is the ASC?  What are we
trying to achieve and how do we intend to communicate that?  I for one don't
think its about trying to communicate the benefits of science?  Don't we
already do that as individuals?  Isn't this about what the ASC members want
from their organisation and how they want it communicated?  It is for me.

S


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>    1. Re: Social media (Niall Byrne)
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> What they said.
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> Twitter and Linked In are powerful tools for building communities of interest
> - perfect for special interest groups/chapters.
> 
> They're not so good at building geographical communities of interest (see my
> past rants on this subject - if you want to reach the majority of
> taxpayers/voters you need to use 'old media' - Herald Sun, SMH, Channel Seven
> etc) as well as new media).
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> Yes they're commercial products. But so are almost all the old media except
> ABC, SBS, community radio.
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> From: ASC-list [mailto:asc-list-bounces at lists.asc.asn.au] On Behalf Of Pete
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> Well said Bianca, couldn't agree more.
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> On 21/11/2013, at 7:55 AM, Bianca Nogrady wrote:
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> 
> Sorry, I've got to comment here in defence of Sarah's suggestion. There have
> been some passionate, constructive and fun discussions about the nature of
> science communication and science journalism on Twitter, moderated by @onsci
> and using the #onsci hash-tag.
> 
> I'm not saying that ASC should be using social media exclusively, or that it
> is something everyone should be using, but it IS a valuable communication tool
> and it DOES have an important place in science communication both within the
> ASC and communicating out towards the broader community.
> 
> I've got just as much out of Twitter, and to a lesser extent Facebook, as I
> have from the ASC email list in terms of exploring science communication and
> communicating with other ASC members.
> 
> Saying that it's just a commercial endeavour and as such, shouldn't be touched
> with a barge pole is ignoring the fact that a significant proportion of the
> audience we are attempting to communicate with is active on Twitter and
> Facebook. To not have a presence on there, however small, is to be missing out
> on a significant opportunity.
> 
> Bianca
> 
> On 21 November 2013 10:31, Susan Kirk
> <skirk at iprimus.com.au<mailto:skirk at iprimus.com.au>> wrote:
> Yeah I agree with Ian.  All the social media recommended so far has an
> individual benefit and takes the focus outside of the ASC.  Also the noise
> on social media would prohibit any real information gain for members.
> 
> I like the idea of a forum attached to the ASC website.  Why? It would be an
> incentive for member generation.  Access to some parts, only, if your an ASC
> member, lots of intellectual property, our drawcard, and something we don't
> see to promote well.  Also, usually, a better search function than social
> media, topics stay in full view and if they are categorised properly they
> remain easily accessible.
> 
> S
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> On 21/11/13 4:41 PM,
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>>    1. [Vic event] ASC at the Science, Technology and the Future
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>> Future Conference
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>> Who doesn't like a good public lecture? How about a weekend jam-packed with
>> thought-provoking, awe-inspiring talks about what the future might hold?
>> 
>> ASC-Victoria has teamed up with Humanity+ and the Rationalist Society to
>> bring you the two day Science, Technology and the Future conference - a
>> celebration of what the future might hold and what paths we need to follow
>> to get there.
>> 
>> *Date:* 30 Nov to 1 Dec
>> *Venue: *Kaleide Theatre, RMIT University.
>> *Tickets:* $125 full/$75 conc.
>> For more information and to register http://2013.scifuture.org/
>> 
>> *Speakers include:*
>> Professor Peter Doherty - Nobel Laureate and Immunologist
>> Professor Marcus Hutter - Artificial Intelligence researcher from ANU
>> Professor Lloyd Hollenberg - Quantum Computing and imaging; 2013 Eureka
>> prize winner
>> David Pearce - British utilitarian philosopher
>> Dr Scott Watkins - Materials Scientist and flexible electronics specialist
>> from CSIRO
>> 
>> ASC-Victoria is hosting two special events in conjunction with the
>> conference:
>> 
>> *Futurist Friday*
>> If you can't make it to the conference, or if you'd like to meet some of
>> the presenters and other conference attendees, come along to the Science,
>> Technology and Future pre-conference mixer on Friday the 29th November.
>> 
>> Grab a drink and a snack and get to know the people attending the
>> conference, catch up with your colleagues or just enjoy a science-inspired
>> Friday night with your friends!
>> 
>> *Date and Time:* Friday 29th of Nov ? 5.30pm onwards
>> *Cost:* ASC Members Free, others $7
>> *Food:* Finger food provided; drinks at bar prices.
>> *Venue:* Graduate House, 220 Leicester Street, Carlton Vic 3053
>> 
>> *Panel Discussion: Communicating (and understanding) future technologies in
>> medicine*
>> ASC-Victoria is bringing together a panel of biomed researchers at the
>> conference to look at how to responsibly communicate discoveries in
>> medicine.
>> 
>> As technology changes the world, how do we keep the public on side? How do
>> we communicate the potential of transformative technologies without making
>> promises which can?t be kept? And, as members of the public, how do we
>> check the facts?
>> 
>> Join three scientists for a panel discussion on communicating the potential
>> and pitfalls of future technologies:
>> 
>>    - Associate Professor Megan Munsie (Stem Cells Australia) the role in
>>    managing our expectations of stem cell technologies. How much of what we
>>    know is fact?
>>    - Dr Melanie Thomson (biomedical researcher from Deakin Univeristy), and
>>    prolific tweeter on the frontiers in microbiology. Does Twitter help or
>>    hinder the communication of science?
>>    - Dr Martin Delatycki, Director of the Bruce Lefroy Centre of Genetic
>>    Health Research on what you get when you pay $99 for your genome? What is
>>    the future of personalised medicine and direct to consumer genetic
>> testing?
>> 
>> The discussion will be deftly navigated by Dr Shane Huntington from 3RRR's
>> Einstein-A-Go-Go science radio show. If you've signed up for the
>> conference, this is a must-see session.
>> 
>> *Date*: Saturday 30th Nov, 3:30pm
>> *Venue*: Kaleide Theatre, RMIT University.
>> This session is being hosted by the Australian Science Communicators as a
>> part of the Science, Technology and the Future Conference, 30 Nov to 1 Oct
>> @RMIT University. There is a cost to participate in the conference.
>> For more information and to register http://2013.scifuture.org/
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>> See you all there!
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